Sex with ducks

[pasithea]

Swiped this link from ff00ff

I love these musicians. Heard a couple of their other songs but this one is kind of over the top.

And now, because I've heard the same nonsense from right-wingers about how gay marriage will lead to people marrying animals, a short comment.

Sure! Let's go for it! Just as soon as a horse is able to recite their wedding vows and pick up a pen and legibly sign their name, why shouldn't they be allowed to marry?

Oh gee. Ya'know. I'm thinking that whole leads to marrying animals thing may be obviously ridiculous. Hmm.

Gay marriage also doesn't lead to adults marrying children for the same reason that children can't get credit cards, drive a car, run a corporation, join the military, etc. They might be capable of signing, but they lack the sophistication to understand the full ramifications of their actions. Yes, I'll grant you that this is also true of many adults, but we give adults nearly 20 years of buffer.

The animal one is really just mindbendingly stupid though. I mean seriously. Do you think for a second that if animals could sign legal contracts that cows wouldn't have sued the holy fuck out of McDonalds by now?

Can we be done with this discussion now. I read the bible cover to cover. Nowhere in it is there a commandment that says, "Thou shalt be really really stupid."

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[dv-girl.livejournal.com]

The thing is, either marriage ought to be a wholly religious affair that confers absolutely no state privilege or it should be strictly business and follow the same rules as joint businesses, corporations, etc.

We have a fairly clearly defined set of rules for who can and cannot enter into legal contracts. There are very few people in present society who would tolerate a legal definition which said that one of the partners in a joint venture could not be black or could not be female, etc. Marriage is the one exception and I assert that in our society, marriage in its present form is ONLY a legal document and has nothing to do with religion.

You could almost think of it as an application with a skinnable interface. the mechanism doesn't change. A marriage grants a set of permissions and applications. The skin is whether it's a simple civil affair, a full-blown over the top performance, christian, jewish, buddhist, etc. Those skins may have their own restrictions but they are not integral to the underlying application. Including gay marriage in that underlying mechanism does not break it in any way. Gays just become another skin.

Poly relationships would probably require a different mechanism that would be more akin to a corporation because you need to deal with aspects of people leaving/entering the relationship and property management rights for assets, children, etc. Legally, polygamy is a significantly more complex device. However, there are many models present in current law which could be used to model it.