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I love these musicians. Heard a couple of their other songs but this one is kind of over the top.

And now, because I've heard the same nonsense from right-wingers about how gay marriage will lead to people marrying animals, a short comment.

Sure! Let's go for it! Just as soon as a horse is able to recite their wedding vows and pick up a pen and legibly sign their name, why shouldn't they be allowed to marry?

Oh gee. Ya'know. I'm thinking that whole leads to marrying animals thing may be obviously ridiculous. Hmm.

Gay marriage also doesn't lead to adults marrying children for the same reason that children can't get credit cards, drive a car, run a corporation, join the military, etc. They might be capable of signing, but they lack the sophistication to understand the full ramifications of their actions. Yes, I'll grant you that this is also true of many adults, but we give adults nearly 20 years of buffer.

The animal one is really just mindbendingly stupid though. I mean seriously. Do you think for a second that if animals could sign legal contracts that cows wouldn't have sued the holy fuck out of McDonalds by now?

Can we be done with this discussion now. I read the bible cover to cover. Nowhere in it is there a commandment that says, "Thou shalt be really really stupid."

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Date: 2009-06-09 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com
I do definitely draw some lines at "no marriage with children" ... Children simply aren't mentally and/or physically mature enough to commit to sexual relationships and there has to be some kind of lower limit cutoff. Setting a minimum age (like we do now) is easy and fair enough (although some may argue for some kind of 'psychological & physical test of maturity' ... that might work too but I'd think it would be too prone to racism or other forms of discrimination).

I also draw the line at "no marriage with animals" ... at least until such time you could grant citizenship and human rights to an animal (e.g. one with genetically engineered intelligence).

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Date: 2009-06-09 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maradydd.livejournal.com
*nodnod* The legal notion of competence (which is why adults can sign contracts and children can't) applies equally to children and animals; two or more consenting adults can be competent to contract marriage, whereas children and animals cannot. So the dividing line is very bright indeed, and the slippery slope argument is shown to be a fallacy.

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