Sex with ducks

[pasithea]

Swiped this link from ff00ff

I love these musicians. Heard a couple of their other songs but this one is kind of over the top.

And now, because I've heard the same nonsense from right-wingers about how gay marriage will lead to people marrying animals, a short comment.

Sure! Let's go for it! Just as soon as a horse is able to recite their wedding vows and pick up a pen and legibly sign their name, why shouldn't they be allowed to marry?

Oh gee. Ya'know. I'm thinking that whole leads to marrying animals thing may be obviously ridiculous. Hmm.

Gay marriage also doesn't lead to adults marrying children for the same reason that children can't get credit cards, drive a car, run a corporation, join the military, etc. They might be capable of signing, but they lack the sophistication to understand the full ramifications of their actions. Yes, I'll grant you that this is also true of many adults, but we give adults nearly 20 years of buffer.

The animal one is really just mindbendingly stupid though. I mean seriously. Do you think for a second that if animals could sign legal contracts that cows wouldn't have sued the holy fuck out of McDonalds by now?

Can we be done with this discussion now. I read the bible cover to cover. Nowhere in it is there a commandment that says, "Thou shalt be really really stupid."

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[dv-girl.livejournal.com]

Hmm. You know. That gives things an odd sense of balance.

Early religious law was because educated people were telling ignorant people how to live a healthier life.

Modern dogma is ignorant people telling educated people to follow the same set of rules.


I guess the lesson here is that no good deed goes unpunished.

[paka.livejournal.com]

Seriously, you look at a lot of Amerindian taboos and a lot of it is this flatly dogmatic stuff rooted in the reality of a world which isn't always that safe. Then my counter-example is the Kalevala, which is a really entertaining read but it's basically an information dump in mnemonic form.

I dunno about you, but modern society presents the people behind the OT as chosen people who'd clued in on monotheism as this enlightened deal, but really, they weren't. They were just more pre-industrial guys trying to survive and treat each other more or less fairly, and that context makes the OT make more sense to me. Which is great, except I'm not actually a Bronze Age nomad.

Religion has to evolve or else it's stale, useless, like the worst sort of dusty museum exhibit. To be a Jew/Christian/Sikh/Voudounista/Asatruar/etc now by definition can't be the same thing as what it meant in the 900s, and that's not just okay, that's actively good. I think it's ironic that the worst dogmatic people in this country are usually some sect of Protestant, given how Protestantism started out.

[maradydd.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't know, there are a lot of highly dogmatic Catholics floating around.

I think the least dogmatic Protestants are the Unitarians and the Episcopalians, though I've heard good things about the Evangelical Lutherans (who are apparently in full communion with the ECUSA); an Asatruar friend of mine grew up Evangelical Lutheran and is still actively friends with everyone he knew from church.