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Your Score: The Thelemite


You scored 30 Materialism and 80 Phenomenology!




"For there are no Gods but Man"-Aleister Crowley

That sure doesn't stop you from communing with them. You are the Thelemite, committed to the Western occult tradition of Spare, the Golden Dawn, Crowley etc. Though you lead a life of elaborate ritual, you realize that truth and falsehood in this ritual are irrelevant distinctions: the only thing that matters is what works.

Now if you just loosen up a bit, you could cross the Chasm of Choronzon.

Thinkers you may agree with: Osman Spare, Aleister Crowley, Robert Anton Wilson
Thinkers that may challenge you: Phil Hine, Peter Carroll




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Date: 2008-01-18 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paka.livejournal.com
That's oddly exactly what I scored too, although our views on religion would appear to be very different on the surface.

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Date: 2008-01-18 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
Well... We could have given totally different answers to totally different questions and ended up with the same score. that's one of the problems with breaking stuff down into numbers.

Most of my answers that probably made me seem like a crackpot were the ones related to this very subject. I do believe that people are generally myopic when searching for 'the truth' and that by in large 'truth' is just a social construct. I don't think that anyone who really understands science can say they 'know' the absolute truth about something.

Newton's laws work well enough for day to day use but they break down at the Atomic level and Einstein proved they were broken. Einstein's theories provide all sorts of models for how other things work and yet Quantum Physics shows us places where they break down too. To me, that's the very nature of science. Research and keep researching. Anything you 'know' is true is probably worth investigating.

s far as religion goes, I suppose I do come in near Crowley (much as that makes me uncomfortable) I think that whether or not God exists is completely irrelevant and that people are their own gods. If prayer or ritual is what you use to tap into your own strength, that's okay. My apparent total contempt for religion is because people believe they know the ONLY truth and they try to shove it on other people with laws and fear tactics.

I think also that science and spirituality exist in different parts of my brain. I do have spirituality and magical thinking and I engage in them more often that most people would guess. They are however, strictly internal When I'm interacting with the outside world I prefer to deal with common truths that we can all accept. Math and science, even if not perfect, are a LOT better than trying to make everyone believe the same thing.

I really wouldn't care if christians thought gays were going to burn in Hell if they didn't try to pass laws to make us second-class citizens. If they content the theory of evolution, that's fine with me. Personally I think there's enough data from enough overlapping fields that it's pretty solid and it better fits all of the data than any religious explanation. But if they throw a screaming fit and just demand that people get taught their ignorant view without a shred of evidence for it, OVER all the other ignorant views without a shred of evidence in addition to the one that most people can probably agree on if they research it.... Then I want to smack them.


So... Maybe the quiz results are correct in some sense but I think it's missing a larger picture.

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Date: 2008-01-18 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
That was kind of my reaction too. :)

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Date: 2008-01-18 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perlandria.livejournal.com


Your Score: The Existentialist


You scored 60 Materialism and 70 Phenomenology!




Spending equal time in the material and phenomenological realms, the deep thinker, condemned to be free, you are the Existentialist.

Life to you is about choices, and those choices occur not only within the physical environment but the context provided by our individual perceptions and self-moulded codes of behavior. You could be a Christian, agnostic, or atheist existentialist, the philosophy doesn't really force you to choose anything on that front, but while others are merely content with what is, you stand apart by concerning yourself with what it is to be.

Thinkers you may agree with: Jean-Paul Sartre, Soren Kierkegaard, Martin Heidegger, Paul Tillich
Thinkers to challenge you: A.J. Ayer, Herbert Marcuse, Theodor Adorno




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Date: 2008-01-18 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perlandria.livejournal.com
Does it still count though, if I inevitably give in to the urge to read Kierkegaard in a heavy Dexter's Lab accent (and they are stuuuuuuuupid)?

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Date: 2008-01-19 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinkyturtle.livejournal.com
Oh hey, A.J. Ayer! I once told him to broadcast an Elizabethan art song, written by a person of indeterminate gender, about a guy who inherited 100 square meters of land in a Scottish seaport, and to do it while the local medieval circuit court still had a spotless record of not making any mistakes.

I said to him, "Ayer, air eir Ayr are heir ayre ere eyre e'er err."

He looked at me like I was nuts.

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