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Actually, this post has nothing to do with polls or possibly a lot to do with polls.

I've been very skeptical of polls as it seems highly improbable to me that Bush could be so close to 50% support with such a poor showing for his term in office. So what I'm looking instead are numbers that aren't allowed to lie; I'm looking at box office takes for various movies with the aid of the Box Office Mojo website. ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2004&wknd=43&p=.htm )

Face it: America is a TV and movie culture and what we watch says a lot about us. So I went to look at the weekend results as I've gotten in the habit of glancing at that sort of thing and I was surprised to discover that Team America is doing quite poorly. Could it be that americans really aren't that excited to see themselves as boisterous obnoxious louts pissing on the rest of the world, or is it just that no one wants to plunk down 10 dollars to watch puppets get it on? Well... Since when have americans ever been hesitant to pass up a cheap laugh? Come on. Adam Sandler movies make more money than this. For that matter, the South Park movie had grossed $45M by the end of it's second weekend, roughly double Team America's take. By contrast, take a glance at the box office for 'Farienheight 911', almost 120M domestic. A good run for a summer blockbuster and completely unheard of for a *documentary.

If this were a persuasive essay, I would now be writing some closing arguement about how this is an interesting look into what america is thinking about and which side they are leaning towards in a way that is perhaps more honest than political polling. On the other hand, this closing paragraph could be seen as a meta arguement by asserting myself as 'honest' by pointing this out. None the less, I think it is important to note that I am obviously biased (see opening sentence) and that all this posts really proves is that I can take some factoid and distort it to suit my purposes just as well as the next person. However, for me at least, these numbers do seem rather interesting when cast in contrast to polling samples.

* 'documentary' defined here as the format and method of obtaining footage as a pre-emptive measure for anyone who might whinge loudly over some minor detail in the content which must therefore obviously render the entire film invalid.

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Date: 2004-10-27 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cargoweasel.livejournal.com
You're right, and even better, check out the box office take of the pro-Bush/anti-Fahrenheit movies like Faith in the White House and Celsius 41.11 -- massive bombs all.

Also, people are big on Fox News' high ratings but just remember that network news ratings dwarf Fox's best days, a bad day for Peter Jennings or Tom Brokaw is more than the best Bill O'Reilly ever saw.

Also, i think the Eminem video "Mosh" perfectly captures the zeitgeist right now. Bush is on his way out. I can feel it in the air. We're not afraid of him anymore.

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Date: 2004-10-27 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
Fascinating. A little more research and I find that the right-wing documentaries have all taken losses and have box office takes in the tens of thousands, whereas, all of the other left-wing documentaries (OutFoxed, Exposed, Uncovered) have made at least twice their investment, or amounts between 500K and 1M.

Now we could quibble on which ones arthouse theatres are likely to carry since I don't have a good breakdown of how many screens each movie was carried on for such small-run movies, but if you look at contributions to parties and places like MoveOn.org, there are a LOT more (and I mean orders of magnitude more) small donations coming in from individuals on the left than there are on the right, and when you get right down to it, for all the money and power people like Rupert Murdock have, they can only cast one vote (and in Murdock's case, none in the US) All those little voices can make themselves heard just as loud as the most powerful men in america on election day.

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Date: 2004-10-27 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cargoweasel.livejournal.com
I think part of that (the utter failure of right-wing documentaries vs. left-wing) is that you can turn on Fox news 24/7 and see all the right wing propaganda you want, while liberal stuff is marginalized to those very art house cinemas. Fahrenheit 9/11 kicked *ass* in the Red States (oklahoma, texas, etc) most of all because people were hungry for a counter opinion that the news wasn't talking about. A hardball documentary that says "the president rocks!" is not going to do as well as one that attacks powerful figures.

And you're right about the small donations. They brought the democrats to financial parity with the republicans this year after Bush raised a massive $175 million war chest from corporate fat cats. howard dean's candidacy showed the way and kerry picked up the ball. americans really are taking their country back.

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