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pasithea ([personal profile] pasithea) wrote2009-09-21 09:16 pm
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Monkey nuts!

Ooooh! Today I found something I've been looking for for years!



No. It's not an alien artifact. If you said, "Wow! That looks like a HUGE pine cone!" (that thing in the background is my sewing machine for a sense of scale)

You're closer than you think. It's the cone of Araucaria Araucana, the monkey puzzle tree. It is a 'living fossil' which evolved in the Cretaceous period (That's a quarter billion years ago) Modern conifers are descended from it and its cousins. It's actually rather fascinating how similar its cone is to that of other conifers (except for being about the size of a soccer ball and weighing twenty pounds)

It takes these guys decades to get much bigger than a shrub and they may be half a century or more old before they form cones. It takes them a staggering 18 months to grow a cone to maturity and they don't seem to fruit every year. Unlike a pine cone, the cones are also pretty easy to open and the seeds are huge (about the size of an avacado pit) and they're good to eat, so when they do drop cones, squirrels and the like make short work of them.

I've been fascinated with these guys for a long time, but they're both uncommon in my area and protected. I've never seen them for sale anywhere. There is however one that is in a parking lot between my house and work. Judging by its height, it's probably ~150 years old. This morning, laying on the ground beneath it was a broken cone (the cone in the photo is probably about 2/3rds of the full size of its cone) and on the way home, I found another ~1/2 of a cone dropped by the same tree. Squee!

It turned out that about 70% of the seeds I collected were probably not viable. They're much smaller than the viable seeds so it's pretty easy to tell but I still managed to collect a staggering 50 seeds though two of them had been run over by a car. We ate the car-damaged one. The flavor is a bit hard to describe. Very mild, kind of between pine nuts and jicama. Not bad really. Even the one that'd gotten run over had what looked like a potentially viable germ in it. Hurray!

So... I planted 10

and have another 20 that I put in cold storage (per info I found online, this will hold them for a few months) It can take a few months for these guys to germinate so I want to hold onto some viable seeds until I have strong seedlings.

That leaves 18. If you are interested in trying to grow one or you'd like to taste one, let me know and I'll set it aside for you. I'm going to take the rest to work tomorrow to share with coworkers. Of course, if I am successful with the seedlings, I will have more little dinosaurs than I know what to do with and some of them might need homes too.

Given their appearance and extremely slow growth, I bet they might make interesting bonsai.

Yay trees! ^_^

[identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Wow.. I'm pretty sure my roommate would like to grow one of these. He's into gardening and has been talking about banzai trees.

I suspect they wouldn't grow well in Wisconsin unless you gave them artificial light and heat conditions for several months of the year -- I'm not sure though. I'm not even sure what part of the country you're in.

[identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Is that Amorphophallus Titanum or are you just happy to see me?

[identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty certain it's a monkey puzzle tree and I'm nearly positive I can tell a tree with giant pine-cone like things from a big stinky flower.

[identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I was responding to Cortezopossum's icon.

[identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get to use that icon much -- I got to see a titan bloom in Madison a few times -- but I was never around during its full stinkiness.

[identity profile] centauress.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
They live in fairly rough territory in Chile and the southern hemisphere. They're salt and frost tolerant. They also grow indoors fine, going dormant in the winter.

[identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Are you sure that's Araucaria Araucana? The cone you have there looks more like the examples of the male shown on wikipedia, which doesn't have a seed. Then again the pictures of the male and female cones do seem to have been taken at different levels of maturity. It's a freaky looking tree. Makes me wish I didn't live in a blast furnace hellscape and could reasonably consider cultivating one.

Go for it!

[identity profile] sslaxx.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds interesting, either for eating or for growing.

[identity profile] pseudomanitou.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love the chance to grow one...

Can you tell which seeds are male or female?

How much light does the tree need?

If it takes so long to grow, how long will the seeds take to sprout?

Any other information you can offer?
...I need to figure out if I can give a seed (or two if you can figure out a male/female pair) a good home inside a well heated Minnesota home.

[identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I found a web page on care of them:
http://www.victorialodging.com/monkey-tree/tips

They seem pretty tolerant of a wide variety of conditions except that they want lots of drainage and are sensitive to pollution.

Takes about two months for the seeds to germinate. Per what I read somewhere, there's no easy way to tell males from females.

[identity profile] pseudomanitou.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Erf... well, I can certainly give it everything it needs -- but the non-pollution part could be an issue.

I do live in the city. I can say it's always windy and I've never seen the local news forecasters mention any ozone warnings or pollution warnings. Still, I guess the problem is the finer particles can clog the leaves... maybe if I stand them next to an air filter...

It's your call. You shouldn't let the seeds go to waste if you think they won't work for me.

[identity profile] centauress.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
When they say 'pollution' they're talking severe levels of water or metal-air pollution, which no longer occurs in the US.

[identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I talked to my roommate about these -- he said he'd like to try. I don't know how many takers you have but he said he'd like 'up to three seeds' (assuming you have extras). -- I'll send mailing address info via LJ message

[identity profile] glych.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
This fascinates me. I shall learn more. *googles*