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Logically, I know this is a huge waste of time. What I've done is the equivalent of going to the produce aisle, picked up a rotten cantaloupe, drawn a face on it, and talked to it as if it were a real human being. None the less, it felt good. It makes me sad when people use the impossibility of proving a negative as an excuse to be hateful self-righteous little pricks. There's one theme that's common in nearly all religions and even among us horrible atheists: Be excellent to each other. Fail that and you have a far higher chance of failing whatever God might truly want you to do than because you didn't get down on your knees and perform spiritual blow-jobs on Sunday.

Anyhow... In response to this:

http://rhjunior.livejournal.com/389908.html

I posted this (Let me know if there's some flaw in it. My understanding of the world is an ongoing process):


Let's see. Will you fearfully delete this because you can't argue it or will you try to argue the semantics of one small point and ignore the 99% that you can't argue because you can't handle it. Let's find out:

God is irrelevant.

I know you're mindbogglingly stupid but try to follow along. I'll use small words.

There have been thousands of different religions in the history of mankind.
Until recently it was nearly impossible for someone in one place to know the religion in another place.

That leaves you with a few possibilities:
  1. God doesn't exist
    • No one is punished for their behavior because there is no god.
  2. God does exist
    • Most religions have some common stuff "don't steal/kill/hate" but otherwise have a LOT of variation in ritual and requirements. That gives you three possibilities:
      1. God's a pretty nice entity.
        • There's a lot of variation in religions so as long as you try to be a decent person it doesn't matter what you believe. God is going to treat you according to how you've treated others and the world around you and even atheists go to heaven.
        • If this is God, religion is purely comfort-food. You like steak, I like spaghetti. No need to argue over that.
      2. There's a somewhat parental God
        • God wants you to follow some path but isn't going to beat the crap out of you for screwing up. You're only human after all. You'll die, you'll get your scolding from the horse's mouth and you'll feel foolish and atone.
        • Here again, so long as you try to do what's right, it doesn't matter what path you take.
      3. God is an asshole
        • There's only ONE true religion and everyone else is going to SUFFER!
        • How do you know your religion is the RIGHT religion?
        • God is unknowable, so how can you know you're on the right path?
        • Even if this God does exist, why would you want to worship him? He's petty and cruel. What's the point of eternally torturing everyone who doesn't get down on their knees and call him master like some sick BDSM scene?
      4. There are multiple gods with strict rules
        • That implies their power is limited so why stick with a demanding an cruel god when you could go find the lord of the fluffy bunnies?
        • There's no reason to worship a hateful and judgemental god unless you yourself are hateful and judgemental.


So either just being a good person is as good as any religion or God's a mean bastard and 99% chance you'll pick the wrong religion and get the snot kicked out of you for all eternity. In the later case, why worship him at all? Better to die on your feet than live on your knees. I'll take my odds with following my conscience and if that god exists, I'll fight him, and even if I lose and spend eternity suffering in Hell, I'll at least know that I stood my ground against a petty tyrant.

Consider that bit. If tortured, sure, I might verbally recant and cry out for mercy. Who wouldn't. But there is NO amount of torture that can ever make me feel the torturer is doing me a service so on this point, your God can never defeat me. Destroy me perhaps, make me beg for mercy yes, but we will always know it was He who sinned. He who was selfish, petty, and unworthy. I did the best I could with the knowledge and tools I had.

So.... Let's see. Will you argue some irrelevant point, or simply delete this comment or lock the post, foam at the mouth with some idiotically circular 'logic' and prove yourself an idiot yet again, or (most probably) run screaming to a bunch of your friends and have them all jump on the band wagon with character assassinations and mindless gibbering because if you can't kill the message, at least you can kill the messenger. (And there's plenty of dirt you can find on me and use to call me names)

Of course, you could surprise me and actually think, but I strongly doubt that will happen. Remember of course, that even if you claim it, if God exists, he'll know if you are lying. If he's particularly craven, he may even pat you on the head for it. Good dog.
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