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pasithea ([personal profile] pasithea) wrote2004-04-13 01:03 pm

Art Archive Sites?

So... Still thinking about revamping my website. One thing I'm really having trouble with is this: How do I want to manage my art?

I have a lot of artwork that isn't furry, I have a little that's supposedly 'obscene', and I periodically want to go through and delete old stuff.

On the one hand, I have my current art management program that I wrote and it works decently except for the following:

  • No search.
  • Thumbnail mode displays entire category listing on single page.
  • References tied to location in data file, not files themselves.
  • Thumbnails not generated automatically.
  • Collection set limited and difficult to use
  • UI unattractive.
  • Long URLs


Search, I think, is pretty easy to add.
So is allowing reference by file instead of record #.
I already handled the attractiveness of the UI and the URL length in another version which I wrote/tested, then never installed.
If I make the assumption I'll always upload from a Mac, I could automate generating thumbnails and simplify the collection set entry, but the collection set would still be limited. I guess I could change the collection to text instead of a binary operator which makes it unlimited but not much easier to manage without a front end to the uploader. Hmm...
Finally, the important one... # thumbnails per page. While I understand how to code this one, it's basically a big pain in the butt...

This gets me to the second option: Do I want to use my own archive at all? I could disperse my art across Velar and DeviantArt for example. This has a couple of pros and cons though.
ProsCons

  • Segregation of furry/non-furry art
  • Someone else maintains code
  • More friendly upload tools
  • Less waste of Jessica's disk space with my junk
  • More widely viewed, more crossover viewers.
  • GUI upload tools==less hassle for me
  • Makes my site more easily portable should I decide to change servers
  • Allows me to show art without having to show site.


  • Seperation by an abstract classification
  • Pieces taken out of context with one another
  • Different GUI layout for each archive might annoy viewers
  • Copyright issues with sites may change over time.
  • Not as nerdy/customizable as having written my own.
  • Requires finding a server for publishing my non-furry art



Its a tough one. Overall I think its more practical to use other people's archives but it would break the overall look of my site slightly and it isn't quite as much fun. Also, I wouldn't know what service to use for publishing my non-furry stuff. Much of my art is hardly what you'd call 'Deviant' but it also isn't furry. Where should I put it and how hard is it to get an account there?

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2004-04-13 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm happy with smugmug, they make really nice galleries. They have a search but I never used it. SOme people use PBase and Fotki. (Smugmug is where I host my galleries.)

There are also other sites than DA and Velar. There is YNA, and Art Attack and ArtSig, and I signed up for some others but I can't remember their names. All of those are similar to DA, communities, art communities. Artsig is a lot of critiquing though. That could be a good thing.

I could give you URLs of the sites if you are interested.

Oh yeah, this Moveable type thing has galleries with it, as does Greymatter. Have you considered either of those? Moveable Type is what Littlebits.org and shitewaterfalls.com are hosted on. I use Typepad, a site that hosts MT on it, but you can download Greymatter or MT, and install them on another server. They are very powerful, more powerful than LJ or a gallery alone, less powerful than a PHPNuke or PHPSlash. A nice middle ground. If you look on littlebits I started a smaller gallery there.

[identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com 2004-04-13 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes please. I'd appreciate the URLs to some of the different sites.

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2004-04-13 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.typepad.com is Typepad, which runs moveable type. $5 a month and up.
http://www.movabletype.org/ Movable Type software for downloading.
http://www.artsig.com -- free, limitations on file size and how much you can upload at once. Has a paid account which lets you upload more.
http://artattack.to/ Like a DA, an artist's community, smaller and faster than DA. Free.
http://yna.solfire.com/ Free, mostly furry BUT welcomes non furry art. I think they are trying to diversify.
http://www.side7.com -- no photos, thats all I know.
Have my friend looking into one I joined just before my bookmarks and email died.
I think the rest I know (photo.net, blink.net and photosig.com) are all photograph ones. There is also http://www.renderosity.com/ but I THINK that one is 3D only?

http://www.bellaonline.com/subjects/4563.asp links to other communities
http://www.3dpalette.org/?msg=3&replace=%2Ffeatures%2Farmory%2F Another community?

http://www.noahgrey.com/greysoft/ -- the Greymatter software. The guy who wrote it is a photographer.

Have someone on my LJ getting me the name of another community out there. If I remember others, I will post them.

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2004-04-13 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Greymatter links to a webhost that has them preinstalled, and the other sites to just have a gallery that arent communities are

http://www.smugmug.com which is what I run annmariehughes.com on, and is $30 a year unlimited space, a decent amount of customization, some search (I think). $25 if you get a coupon. More if you want to sell prints from there. Has a sweet sweet OSX uploader. Fast. Howard Dean kept his photo blog there so it can handle heavy traffic.

http://www.pbase.com isnt free, it looks nice BUT I always had problems with it.

http://www.fotki.com is not free, and honestly I don't think that is pretty. All of these last 3 you can put photos in LJ or other sites with them, they allow external linking.

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2004-04-13 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.shadowness.com

That was the new one I just joined.

[identity profile] revar.livejournal.com 2004-04-13 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Tugrik and I have been using Gallery for our photos and such. It has a Java based GUI uploader app that's nice. The code for Gallery is mainly PHP based, but uses ImageMagick or NetPBM tools for image manipulation. It has support for nested albums, comments, image voting/ranking, lossless rotation of jpegs, EXIF photo info, and it can even store movie files. It's also fairly easy to install and set up.

You can poke through my image gallery, to see if you like it.